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		<title>Comment on Fancy Some Sauerkraut? by Starting the day right &#124; We Can Be More</title>
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		<dc:creator>Starting the day right &#124; We Can Be More</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Apr 2012 09:28:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] probiotic by way of the saukraut (linked to gut health, general health and [...]</description>
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		<title>Comment on Chocolate Addiction &#8211; 12 Steps to Beat It! by Noel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Noel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Mar 2012 09:15:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Excellent tips... (i specially liked points 7 and 8)... keep it up :)</description>
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		<title>Comment on There are none so blind as the double blind ! by Pamela Jeanne ND</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pamela Jeanne ND</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jan 2012 23:40:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What a refreshing article! Bravo for speaking the truth about research and looking at the clinical side of the nutrition picture. As a practitioner for over 45 years, what Dr. Campbell McBride writes is so  true. We have to stop this evidence based madness and treat people in a comprehensive holistic manner.  Machines will never be the answer to our quest for health and wellness. As a woman I have always known this and our grandmothers before have too. Let&#039;s keep raising our voices of displeasure over a medical system that is not working to keep our country (and other countries) healthy and thus strong.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What a refreshing article! Bravo for speaking the truth about research and looking at the clinical side of the nutrition picture. As a practitioner for over 45 years, what Dr. Campbell McBride writes is so  true. We have to stop this evidence based madness and treat people in a comprehensive holistic manner.  Machines will never be the answer to our quest for health and wellness. As a woman I have always known this and our grandmothers before have too. Let&#8217;s keep raising our voices of displeasure over a medical system that is not working to keep our country (and other countries) healthy and thus strong.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Which&#8217;s Brew? by Martina</title>
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		<dc:creator>Martina</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jan 2012 21:44:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Since the report was published on 16th January, one or two quiet voices have been persistently asking for details of the sampling methods used in the study. Particularly crucial are Eleanor Dormontt’s observations on pseudoreplication and the probability of randomly selecting the same practitioner twice – which the study did. Answers have been hard to come by, but bland unsupported assertion is much in evidence in the comments sections at which.co.uk:

• David Colquhoun supplied calculated beyesian confidence limits for the Which? study on 17th, This calculation assumes and requires the sample to be random.
• Expert reviewer and dietitian Catherine Collins confirmed the sampling was random on 18th January but giving no details of methods used. 
• Shefalee Loth (Which? staffer) confirmed the sampling was random, also on the 18th, again giving no details of sampling methodology.
• Around mid-day on 18th January we see the first signs of backtracking. Avoiding the direct issue of sampling methodology and without confirming whether the sample was random or not, Colquhoun states that the expert panel had ‘nothing to do with selection’.
• Finally on the 19th January we see Colquhoun’s acceptance that the ‘the sample was not a random sample of all nutritional therapists.’ (Posted 19th January 1:26am)

At the time of writing we see that of the three expert reviewers, one reviewer (Colquhoun) says its definitely not random sampling. Another reviewer (Collins) says it definitely is random sampling, and the third reviewer Margaret McCartney is wisely keeping very quiet on the subject.

In David Colquhoun’s excellent published book on the subject (‘Lectures On Bio-statistics’ p16) he explains in his own words, why randomness is fundamental:“Any sort of statistical analysis (and any sort of intuitive analysis) of observations depends on random selection and allocation having been properly done.” 

Looking more deeply into what we know about the random (or not random) sampling methodology actually used in the study: there is little information available other than this offering from Colquhoun’s discussion comments on 19th January:

“I understand that Which? staff selected the therapists in a way that mimicked what a present day consumer might do. They used google and online directories, and chose the therapists that were at the top of the search results. Thus, the sample was not a random sample of all nutritional therapists, but would be like the therapists that were chosen by googling. It would be biased towards the more popular (and therefore perhaps better?) therapists. It is a worry that less popular therapists might have given worse advice than was found in this case.” 

That any scientist, especially a dietitian such as Catherine Collins could ever consider this as a random selection is interesting. Colquhoun concedes it is not random, then introduces as a fact the unsupported conjecture that the study now becomes biased in favour of nutritionists. It’s not random any more – it’s now better than random! Colquhoun is also clearly saying that clinical competence of nutritional therapists declines with your google search position.*(see note). One waits to hear more of this ground-breaking discovery in the scientific press.

So how to make sense of all this? It is probable that, at the start of the Which? project, the reviewers either assumed or were told by Which? that the sample was random. Some time after publication, the truth emerges which destroys the entire legitimacy of the report’s findings. The expert panel are in disagreement with each other as to the validity of the sampling methodology used, and now the Which? discussion board has been closed down (now re-opened).

In summary, any conclusions drawn from a non-random study are simply meaningless. They cannot be relied on to suggest anything at all about the population under investigation. The Which? report can therefore be revealed as a study whose sole basis for legitimacy is the stridency of its own conclusions (see Salem Witch Trials).

Clearly, the panel of experts should all now disassociate themselves from the Which? report and its conclusions. Which? should also retract the report; whether it does or not may well depend on the weight of any defamation actions. Which? should at least acknowledge that a selection methodology more suitable to assessing the relative merits of washing machines should never be applied to a study of this type. 

Note:
*The raft of problems associated with this statement and this type of sample selection are worthy of much discussion, but not here! As a taster, the notion that google listings are necessarily biased towards popularity is generally false, (confusion of cause and effect), the association of practitioner competence with google ranking is unsubstantiated and patently absurd, search results differ depending on the geo-location of the initial google enquiry, which search terms were used, and so on...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Since the report was published on 16th January, one or two quiet voices have been persistently asking for details of the sampling methods used in the study. Particularly crucial are Eleanor Dormontt’s observations on pseudoreplication and the probability of randomly selecting the same practitioner twice – which the study did. Answers have been hard to come by, but bland unsupported assertion is much in evidence in the comments sections at which.co.uk:</p>
<p>• David Colquhoun supplied calculated beyesian confidence limits for the Which? study on 17th, This calculation assumes and requires the sample to be random.<br />
• Expert reviewer and dietitian Catherine Collins confirmed the sampling was random on 18th January but giving no details of methods used.<br />
• Shefalee Loth (Which? staffer) confirmed the sampling was random, also on the 18th, again giving no details of sampling methodology.<br />
• Around mid-day on 18th January we see the first signs of backtracking. Avoiding the direct issue of sampling methodology and without confirming whether the sample was random or not, Colquhoun states that the expert panel had ‘nothing to do with selection’.<br />
• Finally on the 19th January we see Colquhoun’s acceptance that the ‘the sample was not a random sample of all nutritional therapists.’ (Posted 19th January 1:26am)</p>
<p>At the time of writing we see that of the three expert reviewers, one reviewer (Colquhoun) says its definitely not random sampling. Another reviewer (Collins) says it definitely is random sampling, and the third reviewer Margaret McCartney is wisely keeping very quiet on the subject.</p>
<p>In David Colquhoun’s excellent published book on the subject (‘Lectures On Bio-statistics’ p16) he explains in his own words, why randomness is fundamental:“Any sort of statistical analysis (and any sort of intuitive analysis) of observations depends on random selection and allocation having been properly done.” </p>
<p>Looking more deeply into what we know about the random (or not random) sampling methodology actually used in the study: there is little information available other than this offering from Colquhoun’s discussion comments on 19th January:</p>
<p>“I understand that Which? staff selected the therapists in a way that mimicked what a present day consumer might do. They used google and online directories, and chose the therapists that were at the top of the search results. Thus, the sample was not a random sample of all nutritional therapists, but would be like the therapists that were chosen by googling. It would be biased towards the more popular (and therefore perhaps better?) therapists. It is a worry that less popular therapists might have given worse advice than was found in this case.” </p>
<p>That any scientist, especially a dietitian such as Catherine Collins could ever consider this as a random selection is interesting. Colquhoun concedes it is not random, then introduces as a fact the unsupported conjecture that the study now becomes biased in favour of nutritionists. It’s not random any more – it’s now better than random! Colquhoun is also clearly saying that clinical competence of nutritional therapists declines with your google search position.*(see note). One waits to hear more of this ground-breaking discovery in the scientific press.</p>
<p>So how to make sense of all this? It is probable that, at the start of the Which? project, the reviewers either assumed or were told by Which? that the sample was random. Some time after publication, the truth emerges which destroys the entire legitimacy of the report’s findings. The expert panel are in disagreement with each other as to the validity of the sampling methodology used, and now the Which? discussion board has been closed down (now re-opened).</p>
<p>In summary, any conclusions drawn from a non-random study are simply meaningless. They cannot be relied on to suggest anything at all about the population under investigation. The Which? report can therefore be revealed as a study whose sole basis for legitimacy is the stridency of its own conclusions (see Salem Witch Trials).</p>
<p>Clearly, the panel of experts should all now disassociate themselves from the Which? report and its conclusions. Which? should also retract the report; whether it does or not may well depend on the weight of any defamation actions. Which? should at least acknowledge that a selection methodology more suitable to assessing the relative merits of washing machines should never be applied to a study of this type. </p>
<p>Note:<br />
*The raft of problems associated with this statement and this type of sample selection are worthy of much discussion, but not here! As a taster, the notion that google listings are necessarily biased towards popularity is generally false, (confusion of cause and effect), the association of practitioner competence with google ranking is unsubstantiated and patently absurd, search results differ depending on the geo-location of the initial google enquiry, which search terms were used, and so on&#8230;</p>
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		<title>Comment on Which&#8217;s Brew? by Eleanor Dormontt</title>
		<link>http://thehealthbank.co.uk/whichs-brew/#comment-24</link>
		<dc:creator>Eleanor Dormontt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Jan 2012 21:59:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hmmm.... I&#039;ve done it wrong again! Well, at least this goes to show (to me!) that these things are generally not as straight forward as they initially seem.

So the first time I just asked what was the chance of picking one therapist out of 1805 and then picking the same one again. This is the 0.06%. This is wrong because you don&#039;t just pick two, you have another 14 chances to pick the same one.

So the next time I simply multiplied 0.06 by 14 to account for the extra chances to pick the same practitioner. This comes to 0.8%. However this is also wrong as it is still the chance of picking that one initial therapist again, not all the others that have also been picked in subsequent selections.

The correct calculation (I think - please correct me if I&#039;m wrong again) is 1/1805 + 2/1805 + 3/1805 and so on all the way up to + 14/1805. This is quite a lot higher again at 5.8%

So (pending further correction!) we can say is there around a 6% chance that the same practitioner could be picked twice. Apologies for my initial bungling.

Despite this, I still think a value of 6% makes it rather unlikely that this would have occurred. I look forward to confirmation of methodology from Which? at some point. I woulds argue though, that a study of this kind would be better suited to random selection without replacement (i.e. the same practitioner cannot be picked twice) to avoid the consequent effects of pseudoreplication.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hmmm&#8230;. I&#8217;ve done it wrong again! Well, at least this goes to show (to me!) that these things are generally not as straight forward as they initially seem.</p>
<p>So the first time I just asked what was the chance of picking one therapist out of 1805 and then picking the same one again. This is the 0.06%. This is wrong because you don&#8217;t just pick two, you have another 14 chances to pick the same one.</p>
<p>So the next time I simply multiplied 0.06 by 14 to account for the extra chances to pick the same practitioner. This comes to 0.8%. However this is also wrong as it is still the chance of picking that one initial therapist again, not all the others that have also been picked in subsequent selections.</p>
<p>The correct calculation (I think &#8211; please correct me if I&#8217;m wrong again) is 1/1805 + 2/1805 + 3/1805 and so on all the way up to + 14/1805. This is quite a lot higher again at 5.8%</p>
<p>So (pending further correction!) we can say is there around a 6% chance that the same practitioner could be picked twice. Apologies for my initial bungling.</p>
<p>Despite this, I still think a value of 6% makes it rather unlikely that this would have occurred. I look forward to confirmation of methodology from Which? at some point. I woulds argue though, that a study of this kind would be better suited to random selection without replacement (i.e. the same practitioner cannot be picked twice) to avoid the consequent effects of pseudoreplication.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Which&#8217;s Brew? by Donald Scott</title>
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		<dc:creator>Donald Scott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Jan 2012 15:37:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Eleanor,

 &#039;the chance is actually 0.8% (not 0.06%, that is for two in a row not two out of 15)...&#039; Will you please explain how you calculated this? Just curious...thanks!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Eleanor,</p>
<p> &#8216;the chance is actually 0.8% (not 0.06%, that is for two in a row not two out of 15)&#8230;&#8217; Will you please explain how you calculated this? Just curious&#8230;thanks!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Which&#8217;s Brew? by Eleanor Dormontt</title>
		<link>http://thehealthbank.co.uk/whichs-brew/#comment-22</link>
		<dc:creator>Eleanor Dormontt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Jan 2012 07:39:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Have to correct my own calculations, the chance is actually 0.8% (not 0.06%, that is for two in a row not two out of 15). Still less than 1% though, so pretty small..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Have to correct my own calculations, the chance is actually 0.8% (not 0.06%, that is for two in a row not two out of 15). Still less than 1% though, so pretty small..</p>
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		<title>Comment on Which&#8217;s Brew? by Eleanor Dormontt</title>
		<link>http://thehealthbank.co.uk/whichs-brew/#comment-20</link>
		<dc:creator>Eleanor Dormontt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Jan 2012 05:16:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Another cause for concern: As I have just pointed out, one therapist was visited by two researchers yet their consultations are considered to be independent data points (as evidenced by all results being given as out of 15). Confidence intervals as put forward in the above post http://www.dcscience.net/?p=4997#170112 use this total figure of 15. This is pseudoreplication. To illustrate the invalidity of pseudoreplicated results, you can ask yourself whether visiting the same therapist 15 times and getting 15 bits of bad advice would be sufficient evidence to judge the rest of the therapist population. Obviously not. This is the same thing, just at a smaller scale. No less invalid. I can&#039;t recalculate the confidence intervals correctly because I don&#039;t know how this particular therapist fared in either consultation, it likely does not alter the results greatly but in general this is considered very bad science and certainly rings alarm bells. On that basis I would not be so quick to offer the benefit of the doubt on unanswered methodological questions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Another cause for concern: As I have just pointed out, one therapist was visited by two researchers yet their consultations are considered to be independent data points (as evidenced by all results being given as out of 15). Confidence intervals as put forward in the above post <a href="http://www.dcscience.net/?p=4997#170112" rel="nofollow">http://www.dcscience.net/?p=4997#170112</a> use this total figure of 15. This is pseudoreplication. To illustrate the invalidity of pseudoreplicated results, you can ask yourself whether visiting the same therapist 15 times and getting 15 bits of bad advice would be sufficient evidence to judge the rest of the therapist population. Obviously not. This is the same thing, just at a smaller scale. No less invalid. I can&#8217;t recalculate the confidence intervals correctly because I don&#8217;t know how this particular therapist fared in either consultation, it likely does not alter the results greatly but in general this is considered very bad science and certainly rings alarm bells. On that basis I would not be so quick to offer the benefit of the doubt on unanswered methodological questions.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Which&#8217;s Brew? by Eleanor Dormontt</title>
		<link>http://thehealthbank.co.uk/whichs-brew/#comment-19</link>
		<dc:creator>Eleanor Dormontt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Jan 2012 03:04:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My major concern here is not the sample size, but rather the method of selection of the nutritional therapists investigated. There was no mention of how they were selected, an appropriate way would be randomly from some sort of nutritional therapy register. If we give Which? the benefit of the doubt and assume that is what they did - we see a small mention of the fact that one practitioner was visited by two of the participants. If we take the conservative measure of the number of nutritional therapists as 1,805 (not 2400+ see http://www.dcscience.net/?p=4997#170112) then the chance of the same therapist being randomly selected twice is 0.06%.  Personally, I would take this as reasonable evidence to support the notion that the sample of therapists was not selected randomly. If your sample is not randomly taken from the population you are trying to study, then this violates the underlying assumptions of any whiz-bang stats you might like to apply, Bayesian or otherwise. I&#039;m not defending people giving out crap advice, but to damn an entire profession on the basis of this investigation (not scientific study) seems like a Which? hunt to me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My major concern here is not the sample size, but rather the method of selection of the nutritional therapists investigated. There was no mention of how they were selected, an appropriate way would be randomly from some sort of nutritional therapy register. If we give Which? the benefit of the doubt and assume that is what they did &#8211; we see a small mention of the fact that one practitioner was visited by two of the participants. If we take the conservative measure of the number of nutritional therapists as 1,805 (not 2400+ see <a href="http://www.dcscience.net/?p=4997#170112" rel="nofollow">http://www.dcscience.net/?p=4997#170112</a>) then the chance of the same therapist being randomly selected twice is 0.06%.  Personally, I would take this as reasonable evidence to support the notion that the sample of therapists was not selected randomly. If your sample is not randomly taken from the population you are trying to study, then this violates the underlying assumptions of any whiz-bang stats you might like to apply, Bayesian or otherwise. I&#8217;m not defending people giving out crap advice, but to damn an entire profession on the basis of this investigation (not scientific study) seems like a Which? hunt to me.</p>
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		<title>Comment on There are none so blind as the double blind ! by Donald Scott</title>
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		<dc:creator>Donald Scott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Jan 2012 00:13:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you were to look dispassionately at Western Medicine and its contribution towards improving the health of the human population globally, you would come to a number of conclusions. Firstly, if medicine is meant to measurably increase people&#039;s health and increase longevity for most, then it has failed. The loss of life from famine, wars and environmental fall-out from global pollution, far outweighs the alleged improvements in health as provided by Big Pharma. Read James Penston&#039;s expertly researched text &#039;stats.con–How we&#039;ve been fooled by statistics-based research in medicine&#039;, if you want educated in the art of misrepresentation in healthcare. 

Secondly, the practice of medicine has become over dependent on technology. People have been promised improved clinical care where MRI scans, ultrasound, laser and all the other new innovatory tools that we believe are so indispensable, allow us to forget the human dimension. Emergency medicine requires fast diagnosis and treatment protocols, which technology provides. However this form of medicine is entirely different from the degenerative illnesses that take the lion&#039;s share of doctor&#039;s time and finances. 

Lastly, our dabbling with DNA synthesis, gene transmission and nano technology is flying in the face of evolutionary processes. We want quick fixes and fail to appreciate the colossal contribution evolution has made to our species&#039; hardiness to survive. By removing so-called threats such as viral, bacterial and other organisms that have always been co-partners in our world, we are damaging the natural balance of our environment. 

We are guilty of fooling ourselves over our abilities to make the world a safer and healthier place for ourselves and future generations. If the doctors go on strike over their concerns over reduced pension rights, then wait and see. Overall mortality figures will drop over the duration–not rise–which is what happened when Israeli medics went on strike in March 2000:

    &#039;Industrial action by doctors in Israel seems to be good for their patients’ health. Death rates have dropped considerably in most of the country since physicians in public hospitals implemented a programme of sanctions three months ago, according to a survey of burial societies.

    The Israel Medical Association began the action on 9 March [2000]… Since then, hundreds of thousands of visits to outpatient clinics have been cancelled or postponed along with tens of thousands of elective operations.

    In the absence of official figures, the Jerusalem Post surveyed non-profit making Jewish burial societies, which perform funerals for the vast majority of Israelis, to find out whether the industrial action was affecting deaths in the country.

    “The number of funerals we have performed has fallen drastically,” said Hananya Shahor, the veteran director of Jerusalem’s Kehilat Yerushalayim burial society. “This month, there were only 93 funerals compared with 153 in May 1999, 133 in the same month in 1998, and 139 in May 1997,” he said.

    Meir Adler, manager of the Shamgar Funeral Parlour, which buries most other residents of Jerusalem, declared with much more certainty: “There definitely is a connection between the doctors’ sanctions and fewer deaths. We saw the same thing in 1983 [when the Israel Medical Association applied sanctions for four and a half months].”  
 
                                                            Doctors’ strike in Israel may be good for health. BMJ 2000;320:1561.1

So counter intuitively, the benefits of our expensive medical system may be seen in a different perspective should a protracted strike begin.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you were to look dispassionately at Western Medicine and its contribution towards improving the health of the human population globally, you would come to a number of conclusions. Firstly, if medicine is meant to measurably increase people&#8217;s health and increase longevity for most, then it has failed. The loss of life from famine, wars and environmental fall-out from global pollution, far outweighs the alleged improvements in health as provided by Big Pharma. Read James Penston&#8217;s expertly researched text &#8216;stats.con–How we&#8217;ve been fooled by statistics-based research in medicine&#8217;, if you want educated in the art of misrepresentation in healthcare. </p>
<p>Secondly, the practice of medicine has become over dependent on technology. People have been promised improved clinical care where MRI scans, ultrasound, laser and all the other new innovatory tools that we believe are so indispensable, allow us to forget the human dimension. Emergency medicine requires fast diagnosis and treatment protocols, which technology provides. However this form of medicine is entirely different from the degenerative illnesses that take the lion&#8217;s share of doctor&#8217;s time and finances. </p>
<p>Lastly, our dabbling with DNA synthesis, gene transmission and nano technology is flying in the face of evolutionary processes. We want quick fixes and fail to appreciate the colossal contribution evolution has made to our species&#8217; hardiness to survive. By removing so-called threats such as viral, bacterial and other organisms that have always been co-partners in our world, we are damaging the natural balance of our environment. </p>
<p>We are guilty of fooling ourselves over our abilities to make the world a safer and healthier place for ourselves and future generations. If the doctors go on strike over their concerns over reduced pension rights, then wait and see. Overall mortality figures will drop over the duration–not rise–which is what happened when Israeli medics went on strike in March 2000:</p>
<p>    &#8216;Industrial action by doctors in Israel seems to be good for their patients’ health. Death rates have dropped considerably in most of the country since physicians in public hospitals implemented a programme of sanctions three months ago, according to a survey of burial societies.</p>
<p>    The Israel Medical Association began the action on 9 March [2000]… Since then, hundreds of thousands of visits to outpatient clinics have been cancelled or postponed along with tens of thousands of elective operations.</p>
<p>    In the absence of official figures, the Jerusalem Post surveyed non-profit making Jewish burial societies, which perform funerals for the vast majority of Israelis, to find out whether the industrial action was affecting deaths in the country.</p>
<p>    “The number of funerals we have performed has fallen drastically,” said Hananya Shahor, the veteran director of Jerusalem’s Kehilat Yerushalayim burial society. “This month, there were only 93 funerals compared with 153 in May 1999, 133 in the same month in 1998, and 139 in May 1997,” he said.</p>
<p>    Meir Adler, manager of the Shamgar Funeral Parlour, which buries most other residents of Jerusalem, declared with much more certainty: “There definitely is a connection between the doctors’ sanctions and fewer deaths. We saw the same thing in 1983 [when the Israel Medical Association applied sanctions for four and a half months].”  </p>
<p>                                                            Doctors’ strike in Israel may be good for health. BMJ 2000;320:1561.1</p>
<p>So counter intuitively, the benefits of our expensive medical system may be seen in a different perspective should a protracted strike begin.</p>
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